This is the latest letter. I edited quite a bit out of it to keep it from being offensive.
I just wrote Jill back and sent Alyssa a card in thanks for the picture she drew me of Rojo.
So I take it you are all moved and settled in your place in Richmond. So you got another house? Or an apartment?
Aint Karma a bitch! I tried and tried to get that prick Carlson off my case but the bias gutless bastard was not man enough to take himself off my case. So my 2 good friends Mother Nature and Father Time took care of my problem for me. Those obits you sent me was a joke. That is one reason why I will not have one. What a crock of shit.
Anyhow, I called Dunlap the 9th and he was taking off for somewhere but said he was taking my file with him. He said he found something else in my paperwork and was investigating it. He wants everything over and done with by the end of this month so hopefully in a couple of weeks I will leave on transport to Jerome. Another judge has not been appt yet. SO I am keeping my fingers crossed that everything turns out for me OK. Then I can get out of this screwed up state and start over again. Hopefully I can get Sis to go with me.
I did not think Milo had the guts to answer my note. I told you he was a gutless wonder. I sent Doug a card for his birthday and asked him to please put the plot next to Dads in my name. I said you would probably help if needed. Will you?
Beings you are working in a bank now are you going to forget about law, lawyering, politics and all the corruption that goes along with it. I hope so. The system is broken and too far damaged to ever fix. Besides DOC is one of the biggest money makers in the country. Then you have all the parasites that suck the incarcerated for everything with commissary, phones, ect. I would prefer you stay away from it. Stick to banking. That is where the money is. Pun intended. You can find out for me how to get off shore accts.
I do not remember you telling me about Ross. Hope you have fund showing Donald around. Thanks for the info on the Jonas’. Does not the death certificate tell the cause of death. What or why the person died. Like Grandpa Jonas died of electrocution. Did you find out anything about autopsy reports. Are not they public record? If so then you can get them. Autopsy reports are used in court which is public. I know at one time I had the autopsy report of the one who got herself dead in my hands but it made me sick reading what little I did read so that means probably both the attys had a copy. Check it out or if you run across a lawyer ask and see. I think Colleen had Dads. Whatever, if you come up with anything let me know.
I still caint figure out why you want a timeline of my life. You sure are not going to get it from anybody else. 1st accident happened about 4 days after I graduated from high school. May 26, ’72 I think. Doug Taylor and I were up in the mountains above Oakley. I think we were up where we used to get wood. We had spent the night up there in his Blazer without the top on. Doug had been screwing around trying to be cute and found a gog and stuck the Blazer in it. It took us most of the morning trying to find big rock to put under the tires to get out. We stopped in Oakley at a little store and got a couple cans of soup and a big can of tomato juice. Doug did not have a drivers license so we stayed off the main high by taking the road east that ran parallel to the highway. Doug had one of those small sport steering wheels and the juice can got stuck under the steering wheel and the seat. Before he could get it out the Blazer drifted to the left and hit a culvert and that had big chunks of cement thrown in it where the force of the water had washed away the dirt. Doug bounced out 1st thing and only got a scrape on his shoulder. I rode with the Blazer being thrown back and forth like a rag doll. The Blazer came to a stop where it hit an uprise where the ground had been cut away. I was thrown out and the barb wire broke my fall. I slid along the wire a little ways and ended up upside down hanging by my leg. When I lifted my head to try and figure out whatever, it was like someone threw a bucket of blood on my arm. I kicked down and was wedged between the Blazer and the uprise ground. The wreck crunched the front quarter fender passenger side. I think there was front end damage. I busted the back of the seat so it layed flat, took out the dash with my ribs and the windshield and frame with my head. Then I spent time at U of U Medical Center trying to make my face look like my face again. Before I got my last operation on my face I got my hand hurt at Del Monte.
Aug 17, 73 I went to Mt. Home Air Force Base to pick up Doug (brother). When I got back and went to work I was late. It was break time so I was giving the other workers their breaks. I was by the buff line squatting down picking up stuff up off the floor. I started to lose my balance and reached back to steady myself and grabbed the chain right in front of the sprocket which pulled my hand in. I spent the next 4 years getting my hand rebuilt. I lived on comp for the first 2 years. That was when I moved back to Richmond and then Logan. After they cut me off comp in between operations I worked odd jobs. I worked as an automotive electrical mechanic in Mt. Home (76), canning kitchen in Rupert (76). I went to Voc Rehab at CSI (77), was the 2nd to leave and get a job which was at Motor Parts in Burley (77). I enlisted in the Army in the DEP (delayed entry program) in Dec 77, left in Mar 78 for boot camp at Ft. McClellan Alabama, then to Ft Knox Kentucky for AIT as 63C which is track vehicle mechanic. Was ½ through my 13 wk training in 2 ½ wks when I said fuck it cause a faggot kept getting me in trouble cause I would not play her game. I went to my DI (drill instructor), CO (commanding officer), JAG (lawyers), IG (Inspector General) for help and no one would help me so I got out on a medical discharge. Came back to Colleen’s in Paul and started working for Circle A.
New Years Eve ’79-’80 I put my arm through the window at the shop, cutting my arm in half and almost bled to death. DO not know if in 79 or after midnight in 80 when it happened. Feb 10, ’80 wrecked my jeep out by Max beet dump. Flipped jeep 7 times end over end and side ways. My dog is buried at Max. Everyone standing around said I was dead. But I am too damn ornery to die. The picture by the little red car is when I got in the wreck with Doug in ’72.
Does that fill in some of your spaces. I been bunged up pretty good. Some still bother me. In the little house when I was first living in it I walked out the front door and ** Sunday punched me and kicked me in the back right where spind and hip bones come together and ruptured the spinal column. Between the hematoma and spinal fluid that leaked out I had a lump the size of a soft ball cut in half. Took about a year for my body to dissolve and absorb it. One of the war wounds that will bother me til the day I die.
I was finally able to upload the Ross Family Album. I ran out of monthly space and then just got busy. Finally, I have posted the photos related to the Ross’ in their own album. I have not uploaded my own family yet. This is just what I have under the Ross files on my computer. This includes mostly photos of my Grandpa and Grandma Ross’ family, my Aunt Caroline’s family, and a few other random photos of related Ross people. There are a couple of my half-siblings when they were younger.
Here are some of the family groups.
James Thomas Meredith Ross
Born Ross, raised and adopted Meredith, legally Meredith, married Ross, baptized Ross, children named Ross, endowed Ross, married again Meredith, died Meredith.
22 Sep 1868 – Snowville, Pulaski, Virginia
13 Apr1951 – Fresno, Fresno, California
9 Aug 1887 – Snowville, Pulaski, Virginia
Damey Catherine Graham
25 Nov 1874 – Pulaski, Pulaski, Virginia
3 Feb 1933 – Marysville, Yuba, California
Robert Leonard Ross
25 Apr 1888 – Draper, Pulaski, Virginia
John William Ross
2 Sep 1890 – Pulaski, Pulaski, Virginia
Fanny Elizabeth Ross (married Phibbs)
18 Nov 1893 – Reed Island, Pulaski, Virginia
James Thomas Ross Jr
19 Oct 1895 – Radford, Montgomery, Virginia
? – ?
14 Jul 1947 – Fresno, Fresno, California
Martha Elnora Cackler (married before to Brewer)
3 Oct 1877 – Otter Creek, Lucas, Iowa
31 Jul 1974 – Fresno, Fresno, California
John William Ross
2 Sep 1890 – Pulaski, Pulaski, Virginia
13 Jun 1948 – Livermore, Alameda, California
6 Jul 1910 – Squire Jim, McDowell, West Virginia
Nannie May Day
6 May 1892 – Pulaski, Pulaski, Virginia
19 Jan 1971 – Bluefield, Tazewell, Virginia
1 Jul 1911 – ,, West Virginia
Apr 1983 – Fairlawn, Radford, Virginia
12 Jan 1920 – Fort Logan, Arapahoe, Colorado
Ethel Sharp (I have written more about this marriage at this link: Ross-Sharp Wedding.)
9 Apr 1898 – Plain City, Weber, Utah
6 Aug 1925 – Plain City, Weber, Utah
Milo James Ross
4 Feb 1921 – Plain City, Weber, Utah
14 Feb 1922 – Paul, Minidoka, Idaho
John Harold Ross
7 Nov 1923 – Burley, Cassia, Idaho
Ernest Jackson Ross
16 Jul 1925 – Plain City, Weber, Utah
29 Nov 1926 – Rock Springs, Sweetwater, Wyoming
Zana Cogdill (Married before to Coffey)
7 Nov 1892 – Dixon, Carbon, Wyoming
2 Oct 1966 – San Diego, San Diego, California
Milo James Ross
4 Feb 1921 – Plain City, Weber, Utah
4 Apr 1942 – Plain City, Weber, Utah
Gladys Maxine Donaldson
20 Sep 1921 – Ogden, Weber, Utah
25 Aug 2004 – Ogden, Weber, Utah
Milo Paul Ross
Judy Ethel Ross
John Harold Ross
7 Nov 1923 – Burley, Cassia, Idaho
24 Oct 2004 – Syracuse, Davis, Utah
19 Nov 1946 – Evanston, Uinta, Wyoming
Colleen Fowers Hancock
2 Oct 1929 – West Weber, Weber, Utah
12 Aug 1969 – Ogden, Weber, Utah
Terry Jay Ross
3 Oct 1947 – Ogden, Weber, Utah
2 Dec 1974 – West Weber, Weber, Utah
5 Jan 1934 – Ogden, Weber, Utah
Jody Valate Ross
Lynn J Taylor
Kristy Lynn Taylor
Cindy Lou Taylor
Lonny J Taylor
Abe Maxamilia Gallegos
Milo Paul Ross
Victoria K Feldtman
Scott James Ross
Jeffrey Paul Ross
Becky Collette Ross
Married again (Divorced)
Paul Norwood Jonas Ross
Janice Faye Higley (Married before to Osterhout)
There is a flurry of activity on the blogs about the recent debates. I watched both of the last two Republican Debates and thought I would add my thoughts as well. I have refrained from making comments as my connections to the political circles and dialogue is much more removed that in the past. Those with whom I am most likely to associate now are those whose opinions come from media exposure and relationships that don’t have close association with the actual contenders. My own experience tends to fall in line with this more and so I question some of the validity of my opinions. I don’t know all the details or what is really happening behind the scenes.
Out of the debates a couple things are clear. A few seem to know what they are really doing and are confident in it. Others seem to have a prepared line or facade in which to convince others of their opinion. Rudy is one that certainly believes what it is he is saying and is not about to be manipulated. Romney is also one who has done his homework and knows where he sits and what he believes. Lastly, Ron is well entrenched in his thoughts and opinions. The rest of them seem to be giving us a line, trying to impress us with laurels, or out to make political statements and force a change rather than the whole package.
McCain rings out as a politician of the true sense. Saying what needs to be said and trying to look Presidential. Truth be told, he just looks old, feeble, and that cheesy smile gets old.
Thompson definitely could be a strong contender but he just keeps talking about the past. Wisconsin this, Wisconsin that; why doesn’t he just talk about LaFollette and it would be complete. Rather than really running a campaign it seems he is a bit stuck on himself which never really works out well.
Hunter and Tancredo have their little pet projects for which they are primarily running. Both ring in often and loud about the immigration subjects. Neither really have anything that points they are leaders or great men to be at the head our country.
Brownback is just another Senator who has failed to even gain much notoriety in the Senate. If he can’t shine there, why do we expect him to shine as President?
Jim Gilmore has his leader experience as a Governor like several of the others. He has a quiet confidence but comes off as not having a great grasp on national issues. I am sure he does know more but perhaps it is his delivery. But he seems to be running more for the title of most conservative rather than President which will not sway those independents and other fence sitters.
Mike Huckabee is the only one that seems like he could be a serious contender but he appears to be out of timing. It is a bit like he should have spent some more time in the incubator. He has some great ideas, knows where he sits and stands, just don’t express himself fully and completely. Perhaps it is the lack of forcefulness in his tone. He is one that comes off as more along for the joy ride. He is doing what he feels is expedient. He is out promoting his way of thinking, his actions and example, but that he isn’t totally serious. Perhaps this will change, but he is just dabbling right now. His campaign and much more show this.
So, let’s look at who appear as the three big boys of the debate.
Ron Paul certainly knows where he stands and what his thoughts are. He is so completely predictable in his thoughts and comments that he doesn’t even need to speak on the stage. We know his thoughts. That is something which certainly comes to his aid. He is dependable and will not shirk at the moment of trial. He was, is, and always will be. His major weaknesses are that he has an awkward delivery. First he comes off as an intellectual. The Dr instantly injures him in some of the same way that it did John Kerry. Nobody questions he is smart but can he connect with the every day citizen and voter? His message is stark and clear. However, it is not the every day thoughts of your typical American. While he would totally have been center of the road even up until the 1940’s somehow Americans have moved away from his strict interpretation of the Constitution, Monrovian/Washingtonian/Jeffersonian ideas of non-intervention, and smaller government. Even Republicans are shifty when he speaks of what were once hard-core Republican doctrines. In order for Ron to win, he will have to teach American history, the importance of history, and convince all citizens of its importance. Otherwise there is no way we can return to the old moorings of our national and even republican cornerstones. He may end up like Burton Wheeler and find himself elected out of office if the trends of the past 60 years continue. (Having said that, it appears we are returning to some of those moorings, but how much I don’t think we really know) Lastly, his age is a minor unnoticed question. He does appear some of his age and usually a bit ragged. As if teaching history were not burden enough, looking Presidential is a struggle for him.
Rudy Giuliani come off looking like a fighter but the audience’s reaction to his challenge to Paul shows how far Ron Paul has to go. The audience and Giuliani show their obvious ignorance. If he read the 911 Commission’s Report, he didn’t pay much attention. After all, that was one of their premises concerning our state and the blow back we were receiving due to our interactions economically and militarily in the middle east. Paul’s optimium response would have been “Did you read the 911 Report? If so, you would be very familiar with what it is I am speaking” and left it at that. Instead he came with a long response that lost the majority of Americans who were awake at this point in the debate. Rudy gave a zinger, which shows his disregard for parliamentary procedure, debate rules, and the common decorum required. Nevertheless, Paul was given a response in which he could have nailed Rudy to floor for his lack of security homework but did not. The debate went on and Rudy was comfortable and confident. That did everything to help him. They went after him for his position on abortion and he stood his ground. He tried to weasel away from the questions but the moderator at a moment of being good required he answer. We have to question whether he will always be straightforward and honest or will the citizens always have to corner him? Regardless of personal feelings I may have for or against abortion, Rudy will still have a struggle with many of the Republican Party since this is a topic of interest for them. In all likeliness, if elected, he would nominate a justice or two and for Republican’s this is the chance to change the tide with Roe. Will they go for the man who cannot guarantee their position? Or will they, hoping to get consensus from independents and hope for the best? Lastly, a question I have is concerning his political credentials. Yes, he ran New York City, but city government has some stark contrasts with a state or the national government. Do we really know he can navigate those channels?
Lastly, there is the enigma of Mitt Romney. Where in the world will he take the country? He is the only person on the roster who appears to need to answer questions about his religion. Each of the candidates has their changes or “flip flops” as they like to refer to Mitt’s reversals. I am not sure that is totally the issue at hand. Romney appears confident and well thought out, much like Giuliani, except Romney has appeared to have that the whole time. This is all the more true when compared with the first GOP debate. Romney has real work experience. He is not just a lifelong politician. It is obvious that he worked his way up through the world of business and can understand the true forms of efficiency, responsiveness, and having a vision/charter. What is more, he is specialized in knowing how to weed out problems and rebuilding an organization from the ground up. That does not deal with consensus but in flat out making decisions, learning, and pressing forward. A politician has the long history of always making sure his rear is covered so he can be reelected. He has to second guess everything and reevaluate things to recast them to a variety of people for their acceptance. Opinions rule in politics. But in business, those things are not rewarded and not often encouraged. Leadership and pure blazing the trail is what really makes one successful. Romney has shown that he can do that with absolute power in an organization and has stepped into the government realm to add his help. That seems to be of great value. Make decisions and then see who you can line up as friend or foe rather than the other way around. That is his strength. He understands the need of fiscal and financial leadership. Capitalism does not long reward debt and operating in the red. This is something which will be of great value to him in office. He took it to Massachusetts and it seems he would take it to Washington. He has many characteristics which make him agreeable to be among the best for the options for GOP Nominee. But I still have some serious reservations about a the man who professes complete fidelity to his religion but wants to bash some of its fundamental doctrines.
We will have to see where these things move.
I started this letter last week and got so mad I put it up. I wrote some things that I did not feel comfortable about. I am going to try to rewrite it and keep myself under control and not lose my cool again. Anyway I do not know when I will be going to court. I have already waited over 5 years on a 30 day time response, 60 times longer than the law says. I do not remember what all I have wrote you so if I repeat I guess you will get told again.
Jerome County is in a bad way. The corruption is oozing out everywhere. The head PA left and has not been replaced yet. The DPA stepped up and has his hands full. The DPA had my case and my appt atty does not believe he is prepared or anxious to take on my case. N the meantime I sit in this incubator and watch what nasty stuff is breeding.
I filed a complaint against Stoker and Paul in April 99. It was never brought up by either. It was not acknowledged at all, nowhere by anyone and should have been with a hearing. There was a lot of shit that went on and should not have and a lot of did not and should have. My ignorance of the law was used against me but then I caint make the attys do anything anyway. So no matter what I was screwed from the very beginning even though it is my US Constitutional Right to have a fair and impartial trial. Idaho things otherwise. But I am not going to get into the corruption and injustices of a back woods greedy cult state.
I do not know nothing about the religious trash books. I was told they had stuff against the cult that you have been brainwashed by. The other stuff I got from the info Franz sent me. It is too back you caint read the stuff he sents me. Maybe someday. It is about the abuse, neglect, ect that goes on in the DOC’s across the nation. You would shit if you knew what went on.
Did you know my Dad was born in Lewiston?
Dead man walking, end of subject.
I called Sis and the last thing out of her mouth was that she was homeless and that was all I know. I got a ½ page letter from her last week but she did not say much of anything. How stupid are you Paul? DO not you think there is a reason why she will not ask him for anything? You do not know what he has done to her? So sad, so pathetic that you are so brainwashed that you caint see past the end of your nose. Why would she ever want to go near that house not alone ever live in it. He fucked her up pretty bad when she was forced to live with him after what happened. Then the dirty bastard kicked her out about a week before she turned 18. She is not going to crawl and beg him for money. She will not lower herself to his level. She is independent.
As far as what Franz has tried to do from the other side of the world, at least he has tried to help which is more than you or anyone else has ever done. Thanks I am glad to hear you think I have the mentality of a 10 year old. My case has nothing to do with you except probably saved your life.
Where in the hell did you get the idea I was wanting financial help from any relatives. I wanted to know my heritage and if there were any still alive in the old country. You really ought to putt your head out and take a breath of fresh air. I really do not give a pinch of hammered horse shit about the Andra side of the family. I, like my Dad am a black sheep when it comes to the Andra’s. I am a Jonas. You are a Jonas. You were born a Jonas and carry the name. I am sorry I ever gave you that bastards name, either one of you kids. Did you know Sis came to me at one time and asked if she could change her name to the same as mine. Heed your own advise and made sure you got your shit straight too.
How was your weekend of the 7th? There went all of the money for books. Did you get to see Sis? If so how is she doing? Tell me anything you know about her. How she looks, healthy, so forth. The 7th was a Sat not Thurs.
Thanks for the B card. Tell your little woman I will not hold my breath waiting to hear from her. To start off she does not know what to say to me. I am sure my letter to her folks went over like a ton of bricks and I really do not care cause I am tired of people just doing and not knowing or caring that what they are doing hurts other people. If she writes, fine. I will answer. If she does not then that is fine too. She really does not need to just cause she is married to you. I already know what people think. Human nature is to run their mouths when they have no idea what they are talking about and to suck in everything they hear.
Time to go so you two take care. Hope you guys have or had fun this month. I will let you know what happens when I know. Make you let me know where you are at. I love you, Mom